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« on: October 19, 2007, 11:36:29 PM »

I am begining to think I need new shocks.  Even though the car still feels tight, it's hard to believe that I still have the original shocks with 108k miles on them.  I am considering Koni yellows.  Wondering what other choices I may have as far as brand and performance level.
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« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2007, 01:11:53 AM »

What is your budget, and goals?
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« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2007, 01:38:10 AM »

What is your budget, and goals?

The usual...best bang for the buck.  I want the best performance at a good price. The car will continue to be my track car and daily driver.  Ride quality doesn't matter to me.  Handling does!
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« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2007, 01:44:55 AM »

I am guessing that you are wanting to keep those 18" wheels, too.  Changes the set-up.

I really think you need Motons, but just so I can drool over them.
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« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2007, 01:47:33 AM »

I am guessing that you are wanting to keep those 18" wheels, too.  Changes the set-up.

I really think you need Motons, but just so I can drool over them.

I use my stock rims and R-compounds for the track and Palomar runs, so that is the important set-up.  The 18's are just for cruisin'.
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« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2007, 11:20:52 AM »

Do you know the height and weight of each wheel and tire?  I am just curious about the differences.
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« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2007, 11:31:45 AM »

Do you know the height and weight of each wheel and tire?  I am just curious about the differences.

Not the stock or the 18's.
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« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2007, 05:06:30 PM »

I am thinking that the ride height and damping/spring force that would be good for the 16's on the track may make for a bad ride with the 18's on the street.

I just discovered that the Miata has a blown shock, and I am trying to decide which ones to get.
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« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2007, 10:37:13 PM »

If you get the Koni's go for the adjustable spring perches from either Comptech or King motorsports, then carefully choose new springs with the right spring rates.  Too stiff you blow the shocks out, too soft you roll all over the place, not to mention what'll happen to the balance of the car if you don't change spring rates front to back in close enough proportion to the stock setup you're used to.  Does that make sense?

Contact hecash on s2kca or s2ki.  He knows a ton about the koni yellow/king perch/spring setup.  From what I've heard from him, Urmil, and others, it's by far the best bang for the buck and will be a great combo for both track and street.  Eventually I'll do it to my car.  Drops the center of gravity too.  Smiley
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« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2007, 03:32:04 PM »

I went for an alignment on the Miata today.  My polyurethane bushings were installed without the proper amount of lubrication, which is why they creak so badly.  That noise is them wearing at an accelerated rate, such that so there is now play in the drivers side rear LCA. I will be holding a bushing install party later next month...

If you have 100K miles on the stock parts, I think that it would be wise to replace them.  Even if you go with the stock replacements, I bet it would make a world of difference in the way the car handles.

The difference in the polyu vs rubber is that the rubber last longer and have more play to start.  The polyu are harder, but will wear faster (especially if installed w/out lube, like mine were.)

I got the Tein Flex coilover system.  It allows you to change the pre-load on the springs independently of the ride height.  The overall length of the shock is adjustable, which is very nice.  If I had a little more money and time, I would have either gone for the Ohlins double adjustable (compression and rebound) or an upcoming Tein race set-up for the Miata (due out next year.)  If money was no issue, I would have gone for the Moton 4-way adjustable set-up, but at ~$10K it is out of my price range.
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« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2007, 05:32:03 PM »

If you get the Koni's go for the adjustable spring perches from either Comptech or King motorsports, then carefully choose new springs with the right spring rates.  Too stiff you blow the shocks out, too soft you roll all over the place, not to mention what'll happen to the balance of the car if you don't change spring rates front to back in close enough proportion to the stock setup you're used to.  Does that make sense?

Contact hecash on s2kca or s2ki.  He knows a ton about the koni yellow/king perch/spring setup.  From what I've heard from him, Urmil, and others, it's by far the best bang for the buck and will be a great combo for both track and street.  Eventually I'll do it to my car.  Drops the center of gravity too.  Smiley

Considering money is the main hindrance right now, I think I have to go stock shocks so I don't have to change the springs.  I can't justify spending practically what I am making in 1 month on repairs.
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« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2009, 08:39:21 PM »

I have Gabriel Ultra Shock Absorber - 69916 working within a good performance and it was very applicable for my car.


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« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2009, 08:42:13 PM »

I wound up doing the stock and I could feel a difference right away, so they did need to be done.
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